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Kobus Venter's avatar

Very good article as always. Learned a lot. We will be piloting a low-cost mobile brick kiln soon. Getting some flack for even attempting it - but what I do know is that the current status quo has to be challenged.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

You do that.

Meanwhile the sun and solar system and galaxy will continue sending Birkeland current waves and blooms, as our planet's protective magnetic (electrical) field weakens.

Andy Hall—Extreme earthly weather in an electric universe

https://tinyurl.com/ap54tcp4

It's as useless as eating bugs to change the weather, but at least I guess you'll get some exercise.

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Stephen Beck Marcotte's avatar

It will be a slog no matter what to work on such a granular level. The EPA moves slow for a reason. It took me a long time for me to understand why - but when I did really understand it full picture, I was like doh Homer Simpson style, but I can't just say that. So here is what I will say.

Most people in California do understand the concept of a "transform fault" because everyone needs to be prepared for an earthquake due to the San Andreas Fault. Well let me tell you that fault is like 20 miles deep top to bottom vertically and it is a really really really big one (continental scale).

What your seeing on TV and social media about the forest fires is the fractured surface. It is scary and easy to see and perfect for surface politics. But what Kelpie is talking about is the down deep ductile stuff, where everything is granular, water and material properties play a huge role, and it is the slow pace of deformation down there that eventually leads to an earthquake (a good thing in this case).

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Kelpie Wilson's avatar

Well you all just opened up a new rabbit hole for me. Not sure I even want to look. I mean, world-ending catastrophe can show up any day in the form of an asteroid, so why worry? As a human trying to do better, I need to focus on what I can do, even though it is only temporary. And yes, getting some exercise is important!

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Korpijarvi's avatar

It's not only a big fault, it's part of a planetary electrical circuit that is going to keep burping up field-realignment events.

And it's not a "slow pace of deformation that eventually leads to an earthquake." Absolute impossibility unless you pretend physics isn't real.

Gareth Samuel--What powers the plates 1/2

https://tinyurl.com/5jk3f5zc

Gareth Samuel--Geology on a planet of electric fields

https://tinyurl.com/bdhhdjwj

Note also the first video in that series. California was LITERALLY CREATED out of the phenomenon of violent geoelectric events thunderbolting veins of precious metals into the rocks. (Gold.) SoCal lies on a massively electrically active part of the planet. Stuff will keep happening no matter how any Zen Forest Gardens the well-meaning rake into temporary tidiness.

EDIT: here is Gareth's take on the Thunderbolt Ores topic:

Are ores created through electrical discharges

https://tinyurl.com/bdhhdjwj

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Stephen Beck Marcotte's avatar

That’s an interesting idea. Perhaps the universal solvent also acts as a lightning rod too?

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Especially under the ground, friend. (Aquifers, wells, etc.)

Andrew Hall--Lightning-scarred planet earth

https://tinyurl.com/4s8sxatb

That's 1 of 2; the other installment will appear in the playlist panel to the right.

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Stephen Beck Marcotte's avatar

I do not want to taint Kelpie’s post further.

But that one on ore deposits is just plain crazy if you take the time to think deeply about how thermodynamics, phase equilibria and density driven flow works. The answer to all of that is basic metamorphic processes, dehydration reactions, and migration of high temperature highly acidic water fluid flow along crystal grain boundaries. Water harvesting extremely minute amounts of metals from what looks like thin air. You can literally see this process in rock thin sections, or in outcrops of the middle or lower crust. You can also show that this happens with a diamond anvil and a tiny synthetic rock the size of a tic tac in a palladium (from memory) shell. I literally sat next to a guy who did that and his mentor (Tracy Rushmere) was on my MSc thesis committee - she asked the toughest questions by the way.

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=2g5acnkAAAAJ&hl=en

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Look up Lichtenberg scarring and transmutation of metals.

It's not as crazy as it seems.

https://structuredatom.org/

Thanks, S.

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Stephen Beck Marcotte's avatar

“The Nature of the Atom: An Introduction to the Structured Atom Model” 35$ on Amazon.

Thank you. I will buy that by and think about it. It may be a gem quality fulgurite and perhaps an approach leading to Geometric Unity?

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